The Divergence of Secular and Biblical Approaches To Narcissism*

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When we are discussing traits and tactics of narcissists*, there is not much difference between secular and biblical perspectives.  This is because narcissist traits and tactics are basically observational and/or descriptive – focused on “facts”.   The secular world “observes” the traits and tactics of narcissists* (those with insolent pride), while the Bible “describes” them.

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But it is as we dig deeper that the secular and biblical perspectives on narcissism will diverge.  This is because the biblical perspective brings God into the equation (of course), while the secular perspective does not.  Bringing God into the picture will affect our understanding of why narcissists do what they do, how they became narcissists, how we should relate to and deal with them, and how God deals with them.  Bringing God into the picture will also impact our understanding of whether things in our “relationships” with narcissists can ever change or improve.

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We will try to explain as we progress both how and why bringing God into the picture changes things.  And we will also occasionally highlight the differences between the secular and biblical approaches.

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I am mentioning this now, because while we will continue to discuss traits and tactics of narcissists, the emphasis is going to shift over time to a much deeper search into what is really going on with these “difficult people”.

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* Narcissist/narcissism is the modern colloquial term for what the Bible calls “insolent pride”.  Please see here for an explanation.

Reflecting On The Reflections

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I have been at this for a few months now, and have enjoyed and personally benefited from this path of learning on this particular subject.  I feel that we are 30-40% down this road of understanding of the Biblical perspective on narcissism and narcissists, described as “insolent pride” and “scoffers” in the Bible. The emphasis so far has been on identifying the traits and tactics of narcissists, or (scoffers/those with insolent pride).   In the future will be discussing much more about:

  • How to deal with narcissists / scoffers, from both a practical and “heavenly” perspective
  • How narcissists can be healed
  • How narcissists’ victims can be healed
  • God’s redemptive purposes in this subject
  • How some societies have narcissism deeply embedded in their culture and national character
  • How God “deals with” narcissists
  • and more

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Once we have gone through this first round of putting a lot of individual facts and perspectives from the Bible about narcissism on the table, we will go back and start to better organize and synthesize them into a more integrated understandable picture. As I have been working through this, I have noticed that while there are some similarities and overlaps between the secular approach to narcissism and the Biblical approach to narcissism, there are also some differences.   The secular approach to narcissism does a good job of discussing narcissistic traits, and the narcissist’s tactics.  And it provides a few practical means of dealing with narcissists, such as “low contact”, “no contact”, lowering expectations, setting boundaries, etc.  In some cases, these are very helpful and match up with the Biblical approach to the subject.  But the secular approach to the subject of narcissism does not dig very deeply into the “heart” side of narcissism, the causes of narcissism, or the distinctions in handling narcissism depending on the relationships.  The Bible talks much more about these and other similar subjects. We’re going to keep digging until we’ve reached as close to the bottom of this subject of narcissism and narcissists as possible.

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One final note.  I have tended to use the modern terms of narcissism, narcissist, narcissistic rather than the related Biblical terms.  This bothers me a little bit to do this, as I would generally prefer to use Biblical language to discuss Biblical topics.  However, to reach those who are looking for answers on narcissism, but would only search on that term rather than on the search term of “insolent pride” for example, I have tended to more heavily use those terms which people would more likely use for their Google search on the subject.

One final, final note.  I have two main purposes for doing this project.  One is that I am in a situation that is highly motivating to learn everything I can about the subject of narcissism, but from God’s perspective.  The other is to demonstrate that God has far superior wisdom than anyone else on every subject, including narcissism, and that this wisdom is “there for the taking”, right out of the Bible.  All we have to do is look.

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* Narcissist is the modern colloquial term for what the Bible calls “insolent pride”  please see here for an explanation

“Scoffer” – More Hebrew Words on Narcissists from Proverbs 21:24

The ultimate goal of this blog is to understand narcissism and how to deal with it from not just the secular literature, but more importantly from a biblical perspective.  There are many areas in common between the Bible and secular literature in defining narcissists and how to deal with them.  But there are also areas of difference which we will see later.

 

“Proud”, “Haughty”, “Scoffer” are his names, who acts with insolent pride.  Proverbs 21:24 (NASB)

 

 

To expand on Proverbs 21:24 in defining a narcissist (“Proud, Haughty, Scoffer are his names who acts with insolent pride”), we need to further expand the definition of the “names – Proud, Haughty, Scoffer”, just as we expanded “insolent pride” from http://insolentpride.blogspot.jp/2013/10/insolent-pride-hebrew-word.html .    Following is the breakdown of the word “scoffer” from http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/3887.htm.

luts: ambassador, have in derision, interpreter, make a mock, mocker

Original Word: לִיץ

Part of Speech: Verb

Transliteration: luts

Phonetic Spelling: (loots)

Short Definition: ambassador

Word Origin

the same as lits, q.v.

[לִיץverb scorn (Late Hebrew id.; verb not in cognates; compare Phoenician מלץ interpreter CIS22; CIS44; CIS88; Arabic  is turn aside (intransitive); hence perhaps properly speak indirectly or obliquely, FlDe Pr.1, 6); —Qal Perfect3masculine לַצְתָּ Proverbs 9:12Imperfect יָלִיץ Proverbs 3:34 2t.; Participle לֵץ Proverbs 9:711t.; plural לֵצִים Psalm 1:1 3t.; — scornוְלַצְתָּ לְבַדְּךָ תִשָּׂא Proverbs 9:12 if thou scornest thou alone shalt bear it (opposed to חָכַמְתָּ), with accusative Proverbs 14:9Proverbs 19:28; with לְלַלֵּצִים הוּאיָֿלִיץscorners he (Godscorneth Proverbs 3:34הַלֵּץ the scorner is proud and haughty Proverbs 21:24, delights in scorning Proverbs 1:22, is incapable of discipline Proverbs 9:7, reproof Proverbs 9:8; is Proverbs 15:12, or rebuke is Proverbs 13:1, cannot find wisdom Proverbs 14:6; is an abomination Proverbs 24:9, should be avoided Psalm 1:1; smitten and punished for the benefit of the simple Proverbs 19:25Proverbs 21:11 and banished for the removal of contention Proverbs 22:10; judgment is prepared for him Proverbs 19:29; “” עָרִיץIsaiah 29:20; wine is a scorner Proverbs 20:1. —

Hiph`il Perfect3masculine plural suffix הֱלִיצֻנִי Psalm 119:51Participle מֵלִיץ Genesis 42:23Job 33:23; plural construct מְלִיצֵי2Chronicles 32:31; suffix מְלִיצַי Job 16:20מְלִיצֶיךָ Isaiah 43:27; —

1 deride Job 16:20Psalm 119:51.

2 Participle interpreter Genesis 42:23 (E); figurative of intermediaries between God and man, Job 33:28;Isaiah 43:27ambassador2Chronicles 32:31.

Po`lel Participle plural לֹצֲצִים (מְ dropped Köii. 479scorners Hosea 7:5.

Hithpa`el Imperfect תִּתְלוֺצָ֑צוּ act as a scorner, shew oneself a mockerIsaiah 28:22.

ambassador, have in derision, interpreter, make a mock, mocker

A primitive root; properly, to make mouths at, i.e. To scoff; hence (from the effort to pronounce a foreign language) to interpret, or (generally) intercede — ambassador, have in derision, interpreter, make a mock, mocker, scorn(-er, -ful), teacher.

בִּמְלִיצֵ֣י ׀ במליצי הֱלִיצֻ֣נִי הַמֵּלִ֖יץ הליצני המליץ וְ֝לֵ֗ץ וְ֝לַ֗צְתָּ וְלֵצִ֗ים וּמְלִיצֶ֖יךָ ולץ ולצים ולצת ומליציך יָלִ֑יץ יָלִ֣יץ יליץ לֵ֑ץ לֵ֗ץ לֵ֝צִ֗ים לֵ֣ץ לֵ֭ץ לֵֽץ׃ לַלֵּצִ֣ים לַלֵּצִ֥ים ללצים לץ לץ׃ לצים מְלִיצַ֥י מֵלִ֗יץ מליץ מליצי תִּתְלוֹצָ֔צוּ תתלוצצו bim·lî·ṣê bimlîṣê bimliTzei ham·mê·lîṣ hammêlîṣ hammeLitz hĕ·lî·ṣu·nî hĕlîṣunî heliTzuni lal·lê·ṣîm lallêṣîm lalleTzim lê·ṣîm lêṣ lêṣîm Letz leTzim mə·lî·ṣay mê·lîṣ mêlîṣ məlîṣay meLitz meliTzai tiṯ·lō·w·ṣā·ṣū titloTzatzu tiṯlōwṣāṣū ū·mə·lî·ṣe·ḵā ūməlîṣeḵā umeliTzeicha veLatzta veLetz veleTzim wə·laṣ·tā wə·lê·ṣîm wə·lêṣ wəlaṣtā wəlêṣ wəlêṣîm yā·lîṣ yālîṣ, ya litz

Strong’s Hebrew 3887
27 Occurrences
bim·lî·ṣê — 1 Occ.

ham·mê·lîṣ — 1 Occ.

hĕ·lî·ṣu·nî — 1 Occ.

lal·lê·ṣîm — 2 Occ.

lêṣ — 11 Occ.

lê·ṣîm — 1 Occ.

mê·lîṣ — 1 Occ.

mə·lî·ṣay — 1 Occ.

tiṯ·lō·w·ṣā·ṣū — 1 Occ.

ū·mə·lî·ṣe·ḵā — 1 Occ.

wə·laṣ·tā — 1 Occ.

wə·lêṣ — 1 Occ.

wə·lê·ṣîm — 1 Occ.

yā·lîṣ — 3 Occ.

Genesis 42:23 

BIB: יוֹסֵ֑ף כִּ֥י הַמֵּלִ֖יץ בֵּינֹתָֽם׃ 

KJV: understood [them]; for he spake unto them by an interpreter.

INT: Joseph by an interpreterbetween2 Chronicles 32:31 

BIB: וְכֵ֞ן בִּמְלִיצֵ֣י ׀ שָׂרֵ֣י בָּבֶ֗ל

KJV: Howbeit in [the business of] the ambassadors of the princes

INT: Even the ambassadors of the rulers of Babylon

Job 16:20 

BIB: מְלִיצַ֥י רֵעָ֑י אֶל־

KJV: My friends scorn me: [but] mine eye

INT: scorn my friends to

Job 33:23 

BIB: עָלָ֨יו ׀ מַלְאָ֗ךְ מֵלִ֗יץ אֶחָ֥ד מִנִּי־

KJV: be a messenger with him, an interpreter, one

INT: and is an angel an interpreter One out

Psalm 1:1 

BIB: עָמָ֑ד וּבְמוֹשַׁ֥ב לֵ֝צִ֗ים לֹ֣א יָשָֽׁב׃

KJV: in the seat of the scornful.

INT: stand the seat of the scornful Nor sit

Psalm 119:51 

BIB: זֵ֭דִים הֱלִיצֻ֣נִי עַד־ מְאֹ֑ד

KJV: have had me greatly in derision: [yet] have I not declined

INT: the arrogant derisionagainst greatly

Proverbs 1:22 

BIB: תְּֽאֵהֲב֫וּ פֶ֥תִי וְלֵצִ֗ים לָ֭צוֹן חָמְד֣וּ

KJV: simplicity? and the scorners delight

INT: love ones ambassadorscoffing delight

Proverbs 3:34 

BIB: אִם־ לַלֵּצִ֥ים הֽוּא־ יָלִ֑יץ

KJV: Surely he scorneth the scorners:

INT: Though scorneth he the scorners

Proverbs 3:34 

BIB: לַלֵּצִ֥ים הֽוּא־ יָלִ֑יץ [וְלַעֲנִיִּים כ]

KJV: Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth

INT: scorneth he the scornersafflicted gives

Proverbs 9:7 

BIB: יֹ֤סֵ֨ר ׀ לֵ֗ץ לֹקֵ֣חַֽ ל֣וֹ

KJV: He that reproveth a scorner getteth

INT: corrects A scorner gets dishonor

Proverbs 9:8 

BIB: אַל־ תּ֣וֹכַח לֵ֭ץ פֶּן־ יִשְׂנָאֶ֑ךָּ

KJV: Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate

INT: not reprove A scorner or will hate

Proverbs 9:12 

BIB: חָכַ֣מְתָּ לָּ֑ךְ וְ֝לַ֗צְתָּ לְֽבַדְּךָ֥ תִשָּֽׂא׃

KJV: thou shalt be wise for thyself: but [if] thou scornest,thou alone shalt bear

INT: are wise are wise scornestalone will bear

Proverbs 13:1 

BIB: מ֣וּסַר אָ֑ב וְ֝לֵ֗ץ לֹא־ שָׁמַ֥ע

KJV: instruction: but a scornerheareth

INT: discipline father’s A scornerdoes not listen

Proverbs 14:6 

BIB: בִּקֶּשׁ־ לֵ֣ץ חָכְמָ֣ה וָאָ֑יִן

KJV: A scorner seeketh wisdom,

INT: seeks A scorner wisdom and none

Proverbs 14:9 

BIB: אֱ֭וִלִים יָלִ֣יץ אָשָׁ֑ם וּבֵ֖ין

KJV: Fools make a mock at sin:

INT: Fools A mock sin among

Proverbs 15:12 

BIB: לֹ֣א יֶאֱהַב־ לֵ֭ץ הוֹכֵ֣חַֽ ל֑וֹ

KJV: A scorner loveth

INT: does not love A scornerreproves to

Proverbs 19:25 

BIB: לֵ֣ץ תַּ֭כֶּה וּפֶ֣תִי

KJV: Smite a scorner, and the simple

INT: A scorner Strike and the naive

Proverbs 19:28 

BIB: עֵ֣ד בְּ֭לִיַּעַל יָלִ֣יץ מִשְׁפָּ֑ט וּפִ֥י

KJV: witness scornethjudgment:

INT: witness A rascally scornethof justice and the mouth

Proverbs 19:29 

BIB: נָכ֣וֹנוּ לַלֵּצִ֣ים שְׁפָטִ֑ים וּ֝מַהֲלֻמ֗וֹת

KJV: are prepared for scorners,and stripes

INT: are prepared scornersJudgments and blows

Proverbs 20:1 

BIB: לֵ֣ץ הַ֭יַּין הֹמֶ֣ה

KJV: Wine [is] a mocker, strong drink

INT: a mocker Wine A brawler

Proverbs 21:11 

BIB: בַּעְנָשׁ־ לֵ֭ץ יֶחְכַּם־ פֶּ֑תִי

KJV: When the scorner is punished,

INT: is punished the scornerbecomes the naive

Proverbs 21:24 

BIB: זֵ֣ד יָ֭הִיר לֵ֣ץ שְׁמ֑וֹ ע֝וֹשֶׂ֗ה

KJV: [and] haughty scorner [is] his name,

INT: Proud Haughty scorner are his names acts

Proverbs 22:10 

BIB: גָּ֣רֵֽשׁ לֵ֭ץ וְיֵצֵ֣א מָד֑וֹן

KJV: Cast out the scorner, and contention

INT: Drive the scorner will go and contention

Proverbs 24:9 

BIB: וְתוֹעֲבַ֖ת לְאָדָ֣ם לֵֽץ׃ 

KJV: [is] sin: and the scorner [is] an abomination

INT: is an abomination to menand the scorner

Isaiah 28:22 

BIB: וְעַתָּה֙ אַל־ תִּתְלוֹצָ֔צוּ פֶּֽן־ יֶחְזְק֖וּ

KJV: Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands

INT: and now nay mockers Or will be made

27 Occurrences

“Haughty” – More Hebrew Words on Narcissists from Proverbs 21:24

The ultimate goal of this blog is to understand narcissism and how to deal with it from not just the secular literature, but more importantly from a biblical perspective.  There are many areas in common between the Bible and secular literature in defining narcissists and how to deal with them.  But there are also areas of difference which we will see later.

 

“Proud”, “Haughty”, “Scoffer” are his names, who acts with insolent pride.  Proverbs 21:24 (NASB)

 

 

To expand on Proverbs 21:24 in defining a narcissist (“Proud, Haughty, Scoffer are his names who acts with insolent pride”), we need to further expand the definition of the “names – Proud, Haughty, Scoffer”, just as we expanded “insolent pride” from http://insolentpride.blogspot.jp/2013/10/insolent-pride-hebrew-word.html .    Following is the breakdown of the word “proud” from http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/3093.htm.

yahir: proud, haughty

Original Word: יָהִיר

Part of Speech: Adjective

Transliteration: yahir

Phonetic Spelling: (yaw-here’)

Short Definition: haughty

Word Origin

from an unused word

Definition

proud, haughty

NASB Translation

haughty (2).

Strong’s Hebrew 3093
2 Occurrences
yā·hîr — 2 Occ.Proverbs 21:24 BIB: זֵ֣ד יָ֭הִיר לֵ֣ץ שְׁמ֑וֹ

NAS: Proud, Haughty, Scoffer,

KJV: Proud [and] haughtyscorner

INT: Proud Haughty scorner are his names

Habakkuk 2:5 

BIB: בּוֹגֵ֔ד גֶּ֥בֶר יָהִ֖יר וְלֹ֣א יִנְוֶ֑ה

NAS: betrays the haughty man,

KJV: by wine, [he is] a proudman,

INT: betrays man the haughtynever stay

2 Occurrences

“Proud” – More Hebrew Words on Narcissists from Proverbs 21:24

The ultimate goal of this blog is to understand narcissism and how to deal with it from not just the secular literature, but more importantly from a biblical perspective.  There are many areas in common between the Bible and secular literature in defining narcissists and how to deal with them.  But there are also areas of difference which we will see later.

 

“Proud”, “Haughty”, “Scoffer” are his names, who acts with insolent pride.  Proverbs 21:24 (NASB)

 

 

To expand on Proverbs 21:24 in defining a narcissist (“Proud, Haughty, Scoffer are his names who acts with insolent pride”), we need to further expand the definition of the “names – Proud, Haughty, Scoffer”, just as we expanded “insolent pride” from http://insolentpride.blogspot.jp/2013/10/insolent-pride-hebrew-word.html .    Following is the breakdown of the word “proud” from http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/2086.htm.

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Proud

 

zed: insolent, presumptuous

Original Word: זֵד

Part of Speech: Noun Masculine

Transliteration: zed

Phonetic Spelling: (zade’)

Short Definition: arrogant

Word Origin

from zud

Definition

insolent, presumptuous

NASB Translation

arrogant (9), arrogant men (1), presumptuous (1), proud (2).

זֵד adjective insolent, presumptuous: — ׳ז Proverbs 21:24; plural זֵדִים Jeremiah 43:2 11t.; — always masculine, and always of opposition to ׳י, wickedness; with qualified noun expressed, only הָאֲנָשִׁים הַזֵּדִים Jeremiah 43:2, of opponents of Jeremiah; elsewhere used substantively, as technical term for godless, rebellious men; once singular זֵד יָהִיר לֵץ שְׁמוֺ Proverbs 21:24 a haughty insolent one, scorner is his name(“” עוֺשֶׂה בְּעֶבְרַת זָדוֺן); usually plural Isaiah 13:11(׳גְּאוֺן ז; “” גַּאֲוַת עָרִיצִים); Malachi 3:13 (“” עשֵֹׁי רִשְׁעָה), Malachi 4:19 (“” רִשְׁעָה עשֵֹׁה); and in Psalm 86:14 (“” עָרִיצִים), Psalm 119:21(“” מִמִּצְוֺתֶיךָ הַשֹּׁגִים), Psalm 119:51Psalm 119:69Psalm 119:78Psalm 119:85Psalm 119:122; so probably also Psalm 19:14 גַּם מִזֵּדִים חֲשׂךְ עַבְדֶּ֑ךָ also from presumptuous men hold back thy servant (Ew Ol Hup Che RVm); > presumptuous sins Deal. (AV RV).

presumptuous, proud

From zuwd; arrogant — presumptuous, proud.

see HEBREW zuwd

הַזֵּדִ֑ים הזדים זֵ֘דִ֤ים זֵ֣ד זֵ֭דִים זֵדִ֑ים זֵדִ֔ים זֵדִ֜ים זֵדִ֣ים זֵדִֽים׃ זד זדים זדים׃ מִזֵּדִ֨ים ׀ מזדים haz·zê·ḏîm hazzeDim hazzêḏîm miz·zê·ḏîm mizzeDim mizzêḏîm zê·ḏîm zed zêḏ zeDim zêḏîm

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Strong’s Hebrew 2086
13 Occurrences

haz·zê·ḏîm — 1 Occ.

miz·zê·ḏîm — 1 Occ.

zêḏ — 1 Occ.

zê·ḏîm — 10 Occ.

Psalm 19:13 

BIB: גַּ֤ם מִזֵּדִ֨ים ׀ חֲשֹׂ֬ךְ עַבְדֶּ֗ךָ

NAS: Your servant from presumptuous [sins]; Let them not rule

KJV: thy servant also from presumptuous [sins]; let them not have dominion

INT: Also presumptuous keep your servant

Psalm 86:14 

BIB: אֱלֹהִ֤ים ׀ זֵ֘דִ֤ים קָֽמוּ־ עָלַ֗י

NAS: O God, arrogant menhave risen

KJV: O God, the proud are risen

INT: God arrogant have risen against

Psalm 119:21 

BIB: גָּ֭עַרְתָּ זֵדִ֣ים אֲרוּרִ֑ים הַ֝שֹּׁגִים

NAS: You rebuke the arrogant,the cursed,

KJV: Thou hast rebuked the proud [that are] cursed,

INT: rebuke the arrogant the cursed wander

Psalm 119:51 

BIB: זֵ֭דִים הֱלִיצֻ֣נִי עַד־

NAS: The arrogant utterly deride

KJV: The proud have had me greatly

INT: the arrogant derision against

Psalm 119:69 

BIB: עָלַ֣י שֶׁ֣קֶר זֵדִ֑ים אֲ֝נִ֗י בְּכָל־

NAS: The arrogant have forged a lie

KJV: The proud have forged a lie

INT: against A lie the arrogant I all

Psalm 119:78 

BIB: יֵבֹ֣שׁוּ זֵ֭דִים כִּי־ שֶׁ֣קֶר

NAS: May the arrogant be ashamed,

KJV: Let the proud be ashamed;

INT: be ashamed may the arrogant with A lie

Psalm 119:85 

BIB: כָּֽרוּ־ לִ֣י זֵדִ֣ים שִׁיח֑וֹת אֲ֝שֶׁ֗ר

NAS: The arrogant have dug pits

KJV: The proud have digged pits

INT: have dug the arrogant pits me who

Psalm 119:122 

BIB: אַֽל־ יַעַשְׁקֻ֥נִי זֵדִֽים׃ 

NAS: for good; Do not let the arrogant oppress

KJV: for good: let not the proudoppress

INT: nay oppress the arrogant

Proverbs 21:24 

BIB: זֵ֣ד יָ֭הִיר לֵ֣ץ

NAS: Proud, Haughty, Scoffer,

KJV: Proud [and] haughty scorner

INT: Proud Haughty scorner

Isaiah 13:11 

BIB: וְהִשְׁבַּתִּי֙ גְּא֣וֹן זֵדִ֔ים וְגַאֲוַ֥ת עָרִיצִ֖ים

NAS: to the arrogance of the proud And abase

KJV: and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease,

INT: put to the arrogance of the proud the haughtiness of the ruthless

Jeremiah 43:2 

BIB: וְכָל־ הָאֲנָשִׁ֖ים הַזֵּדִ֑יםאֹמְרִ֣ים אֶֽל־

NAS: and all the arrogant men

KJV: of Kareah, and all the proud men,

INT: and all men the arrogant to say to

Malachi 3:15 

BIB: אֲנַ֖חְנוּ מְאַשְּׁרִ֣ים זֵדִ֑ים גַּם־ נִבְנוּ֙

NAS: we call the arrogantblessed;

KJV: And now we call the proudhappy;

INT: we call the arrogant only built

Malachi 4:1 

BIB: וְהָי֨וּ כָל־ זֵדִ֜ים וְכָל־ עֹשֵׂ֤ה

NAS: and all the arrogant and every

KJV: as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do

INT: become and all the arrogant and every do

Narcissism / Insolent Pride – The Hebrew Word

Since the word “insolent pride” used in Proverbs 21:24 is a foundation for this discussion, we need to take a closer look at the Hebrew word for it – “zadon”

From http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/2087.htm

zadon: insolence, presumptuousness

Original Word: זָדוֹן

Part of Speech: Noun Masculine

Transliteration: zadon

Phonetic Spelling: (zaw-done’)

Short Definition: arrogance

Word Origin

from zud

Definition

insolence, presumptuousness

NASB Translation

arrogance (3), arrogant (2), insolence (2), insolent pride (1), presumptuously (2), pride (1).

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Here are the uses

Strong’s Hebrew 2087 – 11 Occurrences

bə·zā·ḏō·wn — 2 Occ.

haz·zā·ḏō·wn — 1 Occ.

ḇə·zā·ḏō·wn — 1 Occ.

zā·ḏō·wn — 4 Occ.

zə·ḏō·wn — 2 Occ.

zə·ḏō·nə·ḵā — 1 Occ.

Deuteronomy 17:12 

BIB: אֲשֶׁר־ יַעֲשֶׂ֣ה בְזָד֗וֹן לְבִלְתִּ֨י שְׁמֹ֤עַ

NAS: acts presumptuously by not listening

KJV: that will dopresumptuously, and will not hearken

INT: who acts presumptuouslynot listening

 

Deuteronomy 18:22 

BIB: דִבְּר֖וֹ יְהוָ֑ה בְּזָדוֹן֙ דִּבְּר֣וֹ הַנָּבִ֔יא

NAS: has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid

KJV: hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid

INT: spoken the LORDpresumptuously has spoken the prophet

1 Samuel 17:28 

BIB: יָדַ֣עְתִּי אֶת־ זְדֹנְךָ֗ וְאֵת֙ רֹ֣עַ

NAS: I know your insolence and the wickedness

KJV: I know thy pride, and the naughtiness

INT: I acknowledge your insolence and the wickedness of your heart

Proverbs 11:2 

BIB: בָּֽא־ זָ֭דוֹן וַיָּבֹ֣א קָל֑וֹן

NAS: When pride comes, then comes

KJV: [When] pride cometh, then cometh

INT: comes pride comes dishonor

Proverbs 13:10 

BIB: רַק־ בְּ֭זָדוֹן יִתֵּ֣ן מַצָּ֑ה

NAS: Through insolence comes nothing

KJV: Only by pride cometh contention:

INT: but insolence comes strife

Proverbs 21:24 

BIB: ע֝וֹשֶׂ֗ה בְּעֶבְרַ֥ת זָדֽוֹן׃ 

NAS: Who acts with insolent pride.

KJV: who dealeth in proudwrath.

INT: acts wrath insolent

 

Jeremiah 49:16 

BIB: הִשִּׁ֤יא אֹתָךְ֙ זְד֣וֹן לִבֶּ֔ךָ שֹֽׁכְנִי֙

NAS: As for the terror of you, The arrogance of your heart

KJV: hath deceived thee, [and] the pride of thine heart,

INT: the terror deceived the arrogance of your heart live

Jeremiah 50:31 

BIB: הִנְנִ֤י אֵלֶ֙יךָ֙ זָד֔וֹן נְאֻם־ אֲדֹנָ֥י

NAS: I am against you, O arrogant one, Declares

KJV: Behold, I [am] against thee, [O thou] most proud, saith

INT: behold I am againstarrogant Declares the Lord

Jeremiah 50:32 

BIB: וְכָשַׁ֤ל זָדוֹן֙ וְנָפַ֔ל וְאֵ֥ין

NAS: The arrogant one will stumble

KJV: And the most proud shall stumble

INT: will stumble the arrogantand fall no

Ezekiel 7:10 

BIB: הַמַּטֶּ֔ה פָּרַ֖ח הַזָּדֽוֹן׃ 

NAS: has budded, arrogancehas blossomed.

KJV: hath blossomed, pride hath budded.

INT: the rod has blossomedarrogance

 

Obadiah 1:3 

BIB: זְד֤וֹן לִבְּךָ֙ הִשִּׁיאֶ֔ךָ

NAS: The arrogance of your heart

KJV: The pride of thine heart hath deceived

INT: the arrogance of your heart deceived

What is Narcissism

There are a lot of good sources to define Narcissism.    Some characteristics from http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Living_With_a_Narcissist

 

Determining whether someone is a narcissist

It can be difficult to determine whether someone is a narcissist, even to experts. This is particularly true if you do not know the person very well or spend some time looking for the traits to be revealed. Non-professional diagnosis should be avoided, since there is a risk that they will be skewed closeness to the subject.

Narcissistic traits are the source of self-love/value and self-empowerment, everyone has the traits found in narcissism at different levels, it is only when it is pathological (akin to schizophrenia) that it can become detrimental to those around the sufferer of the disorder.

It is not uncommon between partners, couples and parents (in relation to children, especially teenagers) to at some point interpret a strong personality as being narcissist, labeling and explaining away behaviors as such is easier, more that to dedicated the necessary effort in a deeper analysis. Furthermore, only a qualified mental health professional can officially diagnose personality disorders or mental illnesses.

The following list of traits may provide clues, if someone is demonstrating strong narcissist behavior.

  • A narcissists typically require:
Attention from others (e.g. likes to be at the center of a discussion when visitors are in the house);
Adulation from others (i.e. likes to be admired by others and therefore presents a positive image of himself or herself to others in order to secure that admiration);
Subservience from others (especially those who live with him or her);
  • Recent research shows that narcissists sometimes are “ego dystonic” — that is, having thoughts or exhibiting behaviour that contradict their idealized self-image. Mostly, narcissists don’t care about the clash, and moreover they often rationalize the clash by blaming others. But many narcissists do develop permanent “ego-dystony” — that is, they constantly feel bad about themselves and their behaviour. When in such a mood of self-doubt, the narcissist is likely to utter things like “you deserve better” and “I can never please anyone”.

But these proclamations are meant to TEST the narcissist’s closest, nearest, or dearest. Will they abandon/humiliate/betray him once they discover his true face?

  • A narcissist often criticises or vilifies others but hates it when others criticise him or her.
The narcissist may also be very adept at vilifying, doing it in a gracious or innocent or humorous manner, and making his or her backbiting seem socially acceptable.
  • A narcissist likes to receive praise from others but often dislikes to hear other people being praised.
Therefore, if you are in the habit of often speaking well of people (always giving praise when praise is due) then you may soon encounter objections from narcissists who hate to see others being praised. In this way, you may start to see narcissists raising their heads above the parapet to take aim at others who you praise.
  • A narcissist likes to ask favours of others but dislikes it when others ask too many favours of him or her.
  • A narcissist can be dishonest but at the same time is a master of disguise and can lie very convincingly. The narcissist’s lies may take the form of exaggeration or, in some cases, complete fabrication. To many who live with the narcissist it seems that the narcissist has a cavalier disrespect for precise truth, and there is a strong temptation for other family members to adopt a similar disrespect for precise truth.
  • A narcissist thinks that he or she is entitled to special privileges or special treatment.
  • A narcissist is interpersonally exploitative and takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends, without regard for how their choices might effect others.
  • A narcissist has little or no empathy and is unwilling or unable to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
A lack of genuine empathy (e.g. feeling genuinely sad when seeing other people being sad) is a key aspect of pathological narcissism — although it should be borne in mind that a lack of empathy is exhibited not only by narcissists but by sociopaths as well. Moreover, one may feel genuine sympathy without expressing it, or may convincingly feign sympathy while feeling nothing.
  • A narcissist is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
  • A narcissist typically seeks to control the family finances.
  • A narcissist often has an arrogant affect (e.g. haughty behaviours or attitudes).

Narcissism – Proverbs on Narcissism

Narcissism = Insolent Pride = Proud, Haughty SCOFFER (Proverbs 21:24)

Here’s what Proverbs has to say about Narcissists…..

  1. Proverbs 9:7
    He who corrects a scoffer gets dishonor for himself…………….. Narcissists will try to trash the reputation of those who dare to confront them about character or performance inadequacies.

  2. Proverbs 9:8
    Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you……… See above

  3. Proverbs 13:1
    Contrast the Upright and the Wicked ] A wise son accepts his father’s discipline, But a scoffer does not listen to rebuke…….. A scoffer will typically refuse to listen to someone who is telling them they’re wrong.  Or, if they appear to be listening, they are internally resisting.

  4. Proverbs 14:6
    A scoffer seeks wisdom and finds none………… While Narcissists can spend long hours reading and studying whatever subject is their “platform” for receiving accolades, their self-centeredness prevents them from getting true insight from their learning.

  5. Proverbs 15:12
    A scoffer does not love one who reproves him, He will not go to the wise…….A Narcissist intuitively knows that truly wise people have a high probability of seeing through them, and cannot risk being found out for and reproved for who they are.   Therefore, they will avoid putting themselves in such a position.
  1. Proverbs 19:29
    Judgments are prepared for scoffers, And blows for the back of fools…….. Instead of rebuking a Narcissist, clear boundaries with clear consequences for violating those boundaries is a prime way to deal with Narcissists.  Do not argue with them, just “lower the boom.”

  2. Proverbs 21:24
    “Proud,” “Haughty,” “ Scoffer,” are his names, Who acts with insolent pride………..Insolent pride = narcissism.  Scoffer is another name for those who act with insolent pride.

  3. Proverbs 22:10
    Drive out the scoffer, and contention will go out, Even strife and dishonor will cease.……….The general principle in Proverbs for dealing with a Narcissist is to get them off your team, out of your organization, etc.   Its not until they’re gone that you will understand the true extent of their destructiveness.  They create strife and dishonor for others by a well-developed ability to undermine people without leaving fingerprints.

  4. Proverbs 24:9
    The devising of folly is sin, And the scoffer is an abomination to men………….Even though Narcissists can be quite enticing with their flattery, at the end of the day people really hate being around them.

What This Blog Is About

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I found myself in a situation that I could not understand.   Things that I was seeing just didn’t quite line up.  Quite distressing.  I cried out to the Lord for help, and He showed me that I was dealing with a narcissist.  I read everything I could on the subject of narcissism and narcissists.  Once I looked at everything through this new lens, things started making sense.   But, I was only reading secular writings on the subject.   Since my deep conviction is that the Bible provides wisdom for all aspects of life, I was quite convinced that the Bible speaks on the subject of narcissism and narcissist.

So, I began to search out what the Bible says about narcissism and narcissists, and quickly understood that narcissism is equal to “insolent pride” in the Bible.  As I began to following linkages such as like “insolent pride -> scoffers -> Pharisees” a whole picture began to form.

The purpose of this blog is to record this search in a way that not only helps me, but also provides HIS wisdom and understanding to others at the same.  My hope is that not only will you understand this subject, but in the process achieve a better appreciation for the depths of God’s word – and that it does speak to everything.

This is a work in process.  I want to be faithful to the Bible and not proof text.  So, I urge you to use this as a launching point to also search it out for yourself in the scriptures.