Narcissism and The Progression of Fools – Introduction

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We have until now focused this biblical study of what the secular world calls “narcissism” primarily on the term “scoffer”, as one of the labels applied to those with insolent pride – the Biblical analog to the secular term.

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Proverbs 21:24

24 “Proud,” “Haughty,” “Scoffer,” are his names,
Who acts with insolent pride.

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While not specifically called by the English term “fool”, the scoffer is part of a progression of foolishness described in Proverbs, starting with the “simple fool” (or “naive”), and moving all the way to the “committed fool”.  Each is a progressively greater degree of turning away from God’s wisdom, and walking an increasingly proud and self-seeking path which is independent from God.   Pride is a primary root to this self-seeking path independent from God, with increasing insolence up to the level of “insolent pride” (aka “scoffer”) and beyond.   Knowing this progression is helpful in identifying at least one of the ways in which someone can become a narcissist.

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The progression is as follows:

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(Types of Fool)     naive  ->  perverse ->  scoffing  ->   stubborn ->   committed

(Hebrew word)     pthiy  ->     ewil       ->     luts       ->      kecil      ->      nabal Continue reading

Dealing With Narcissists* – Crying Out, Seeking God – continued

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James 1:5-8

But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him. But he must ask in faith without any doubting, for the one who doubts is like the surf of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind. For that man ought not to expect that he will receive anything from the Lord,being a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

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When dealing with an N that is driving us crazy, in addition to crying out “God help me!”, God invites us to ask Him for wisdom.  This is HIS wisdom – not human wisdom – including practical  tips, things of the heart, and even things from God’s perspective.  James says that if you ask for wisdom, He will give it to you – generously.

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But there is an important qualifier to getting this wisdom – “not doubting”.  The doubting here is not so much doubting as to whether you will receive the wisdom, but doubting as to whether you really want it – whether you really want to do things God’s way even if He gave you the clear right answers.   We know this is through James’ statement in verse 7 – ” For that man ought not to expect that he will receive anything from the Lord,being a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.”   Double-mindedness is to have two minds or opinions on the same subject – wanting to do things God’s way, but at the same time wanting what we ourselves want.  With that heart, God could tell us the right answer, and we might not even know we received the answer because we were only looking for the answer we wanted to see.  In order to ask for true wisdom in dealing with the situation, to receive it, and to KNOW that we have received it, we must start with the heart attitude that we will act on the wisdom God gives us without interjecting our own “will” into the matter.

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This invitation to ask for wisdom is in the context of trials, which James describes as tests (we will look into this later).  Of course, our challenge with our narcissist certainly qualifies as a trial and a test.

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James 1:2-4

Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials,knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

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So go ahead – ask for wisdom in how to deal with your challenging narcissist.  But don’t expect to get what you are asking for unless you are truly serious about doing it His way instead of your own way.  All along being aware of the admonition in Proverbs:

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Proverbs 14:12

12 There is a way which seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death.

 

Secular Definitions – Narcissism Was Formerly Called Megalomania

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Megalomania

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This article is about a condition relating to grandiosity. For other uses, see Megalomania (disambiguation).   See also: Narcissistic personality disorder
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Megalomania is a psychopathological condition characterized by fantasies of power, relevance, omnipotence, and by inflated self-esteem.   Historically it was used as a name for narcissistic personality disorder prior to the latter’s first use by Heinz Kohut in 1968, and is used today as a non-clinical equivalent.[1][2] It is not mentioned in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)[3] or the International Statistical Classification of Diseases (ICD).

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Etymology

The word megalomania is derived from the Greek μεγαλο- megalo- “large, great”, and μανία mania “madness, frenzy”. Its first attested use in English occurred in 1890, as a translation of the French mégalomanie.

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Early Freudianism

Sigmund Freud commented of the adult neurotic’s sense of omnipotence that “this belief is a frank acknowledgement of a relic of the old megalomania of infancy”.[4] He similarly concluded that “we can detect an element of megalomania in most other forms ofparanoic disorder. We are justified in assuming that this megalomania is essentially of an infantile nature and that, as development proceeds, it is sacrificed to social considerations”.[5]

Edmund Bergler also considered megalomania to be normal in the child,[6] and for it to be reactivated in later life in gambling.[7]Otto Fenichel states that, for those who react in later life to narcissistic hurt with denial, a similar regression to the megalomania of childhood is taking place.[8]

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Object relations

Whereas Freud saw megalomania as an obstacle to psychoanalysis, in the second half of the 20th century object relations theory, both in the States and among British Kleinians, set about revaluing megalomania as a defence mechanism that offered potential access for therapy.[9] Such an approach built on Heinz Kohut‘s view of narcissistic megalomania as an aspect of normal development, by contrast with Kernberg‘s consideration of such grandiosity as a pathological development distortion.[10]

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Everyday

As well as a symptom of pathology, a degree of megalomania is a way of defending against loss in everyday life—a manic defense against the experience of separation and loss.[11] When linked to a position of power, whether military, political, orcontrol-freak bureaucratical,[12] it is likely to lead to miscalculation as a by-product of the subject’s conceit.[13]

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Therapy

Because the megalomaniac tends not to be particularly interested in examining or changing the self,[14] talking cures may be less effective than medication in their treatment.[15] The transference in a talking cure may also be compromised by the patient’s enhancement of any megalomaniac tendencies within the analyst him/herself.[16]

Best Match Between Secular and Biblical Definitions of Narcissism

By Mayo Clinic Staff

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Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of ultra confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that’s vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. You may be generally unhappy and disappointed when you’re not given the special favors or admiration you believe you deserve. Others may not enjoy being around you, and you may find your relationships unfulfilling.

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The phrase above “inflated sense of their own importance” is the key linkage between the secular and Biblical definitions.  It has echoes of

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Romans 12:3, 16

For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith……. 16 Be of the same mind toward one another; do not be haughty in mind, but[n]associate with the lowly. Do not be wise in your own estimation.

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“Inflated sense of own importance (Mayo) is approximately = “haughty in mind” (Romans 12:16) = “insolent pride” (Proverbs 21:24).  Therefore, Mayo’s definition (of narcissism) is approximately equal to the Biblical term (insolent pride).

 

Another Narcissism Test

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Narcissism (Insolent Pride) can take many forms.  He (or she) can be the obvious extroverted center of attention, but he can also be introverted and reserved.

The essence of narcissism is not the outward style, but “selfishness and empty conceit” instead of “humility of mind” – as Paul admonished against here……

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Philippians 2:3 – “Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves…”

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A good secular discussion of this can be found in the following article

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http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/23-signs-youe28099re-secretly-a-narcissist-masquerading-as-a-sensitive-introvert/

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This article includes an interesting test for “introverted narcissism”.  Its worth a look.

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Note:  Narcissism is the modern colloquial term for what the Bible describes as “insolent pride” – see here

 

 

Is Narcissism = Insolent Pride in the Bible?

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As we have mentioned previously, one underlying premise of this blog is that what is defined as “narcissism” in the secular world of psychology is called “insolent pride” in the Bible.   The basis for making this assertion is the substantial, but not necessarily  1:1, overlap of traits.

 

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As Narcissistic Personality Disorder is still being researched in the formal field of psychology, and is only generally defined in the world of pop psychology, it does not have a clear, official definition  (see here).   Therefore, it stands to reason that there won’t be a clear 1;1 match between the terms “narcissism” and “insolent pride”, when one of the terms is not precisely defined.   But, there is enough overlap of traits that we can use the term “narcissism” as an approximation for “insolent pride”.

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The reason we are even using the term “narcissism” is that many people who are searching for answers on how to deal with these troublesome people will likely search using the term “narcissism”, as that is the term with which they are most familiar.  But the most precise and real answers will come from the Biblical understanding of “insolent pride”.  That is why we are using the terms synonymously, even though there is not a precise match-up between terms.

 

 

 

Status Update

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I have been very very busy with other responsibilities for the past six months, and as a result have not been able to write nearly as much as I would like.  I have a window in the next four months to hopefully begin writing on the more difficult questions of how to deal with narcissists in family relationships and why God allows these people to wreak havoc.

HE has provided some Biblical perspective on those difficult questions, and I am now wrestling with how to discuss those perspectives in this blog format.  The reason I am wrestling is because those subjects need a comprehensive discussion with the key points being made together at the same time.  This blog’s current format of short quick snippets is not currently conducive to that kind of comprehensive discussion.

Anyway, that’s the challenge – we’ll see how it get resolved!

And there are also lots of case studies to dive into, as well as looking much more closely at how Jesus dealt with the narcissists around him.  Should be fun……

 

Progress Update – Searching For Wisdom on Biblical Perspectives on Narcissism

Dear readers,

To give a quick update on the recent “period of silence”……

I have had a spike in other responsibilities for the past 5 months, which has greatly hindered my time, energy, and mental space for writing.  But, during that time I have continued the wisdom search on Biblical Perspectives on Narcissism, and have become more clear on a few things even while I am still searching on others.

  1. The traits and tactics of narcissists / those with insolent pride are becoming increasingly clear.  Once you learn to recognize these traits and tactics, its pretty easy to understand what’s going on.
  2. Narcissists’ big advantage is their ability to “win you over quickly”.  I still need to get a better handle on “early warning signs”.
  3. One BIG issue is how to deal with these people once you recognize them and what they’re doing.  The best way to deal with a narcissist / one with insolent pride varies greatly depending on your relationship to them.  In fact, you could make a major mistake if you apply the wrong tool in a particular situation.  More later on this.
  4. It is becoming increasingly clear how God uses these people for our good and His glory, even though He will also deal with them in the end
  5. I still do not have a very good handle on WHY narcissists are they way they are, how they got that way, and what the “fix” is.  But, I am quite sure that the Bible addresses those issues as well and will continue searching.

 

More to come…………

 

 

Narcissism* = Insolent Pride – A Psychiatrist’s Perspective, Part 2

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from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Scott_Peck

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People of the Lie

First published in 1983, People of the Lie: The Hope For Healing Human Evil (ISBN 0 7126 1857 0) followed on from Peck’s first book. Peck describes the stories of several people who came to him whom he found particularly resistant to any form of help. He came to think of them as evil and goes on to describe the characteristics of evil in psychological terms, proposing that it could become a psychiatric diagnosis.

Evil

Peck discusses evil in his book People of the Lie: The Hope for Healing Human Evil,[7] and also in a chapter of The Road Less Traveled.[6] Peck characterizes evil as a malignant type of self-righteousness in which there is an active rather than passive refusal to tolerate imperfection (sin) and its consequent guilt.[6][7] This syndrome results in a projection of evil onto selected specific innocent victims (often children), which is the paradoxical mechanism by which the People of the Lie commit their evil.[7] Peck argues that these people are the most difficult of all to deal with, and extremely hard to identify.[7] He describes in some detail several individual cases involving his patients. In one case which Peck considers as the most typical because of its subtlety, he describes Roger, a depressed teenage son of respected, well off parents.[7] In a series of parental decisions justified by often subtle distortions of the truth, they exhibit a consistent disregard for their son’s feelings, and a consistent willingness to destroy his growth. With false rationality and normality, they aggressively refuse to consider that they are in any way responsible for his resultant depression, eventually suggesting his condition must be incurable and genetic.

Some of his conclusions about the psychiatric condition that he designates as “evil”, are derived from his close study of one patient he names Charlene.[7] Although Charlene is not dangerous, she is ultimately unable to have empathy for others in any way. According to Peck, people like her see others as play things or tools to be manipulated for their own uses or entertainment. Peck states that these people are rarely seen by psychiatrists, and have never been treated successfully.

Evil is described by Peck as “militant ignorance”. The original Judeo-Christian concept of “sin” is as a process that leads us to “miss the mark” and fall short of perfection.[7] Peck argues that while most people are conscious of this, at least on some level, those that are evil actively and militantly refuse this consciousness. Peck considers those he calls evil to be attempting to escape and hide from their own conscience (through self-deception), and views this as being quite distinct from the apparent absence of conscience evident in sociopathy.[7]

According to Peck an evil person:[6][7]

  • Is consistently self-deceiving, with the intent of avoiding guilt and maintaining a self-image of perfection
  • Deceives others as a consequence of their own self-deception
  • Projects his or her evils and sins onto very specific targets (scapegoats) while being apparently normal with everyone else (“their insensitivity toward him was selective” (Peck, 1983/1988, p 105[7]))
  • Commonly hates with the pretense of love, for the purposes of self-deception as much as deception of others
  • Abuses political (emotional) power (“the imposition of one’s will upon others by overt or covert coercion” (Peck, 1978/1992, p298[6]))
  • Maintains a high level of respectability, and lies incessantly in order to do so
  • Is consistent in his or her sins. Evil persons are characterized not so much by the magnitude of their sins, but by their consistency (of destructiveness)
  • Is unable to think from the viewpoint of their victim (scapegoat)
  • Has a covert intolerance to criticism and other forms of narcissistic injury

Most evil people realize the evil deep within themselves but are unable to tolerate the pain of introspection, or admit to themselves that they are evil. Thus, they constantly run away from their evil by putting themselves in a position of moral superiority and putting the focus of evil on others. Evil is an extreme form of what Scott Peck, in The Road Less Traveled, calls a character disorder.[6][7]

Though the topic of evil has historically been the domain of religion,[7] Peck makes great efforts to keep much of his discussion on a scientific basis, explaining the specific psychological mechanisms by which evil operates. He was also particularly conscious of the danger of a psychology of evil being misused for personal or political ends.[7]Peck considered that such a psychology should be used with great care, as falsely labeling people as evil is one of the very characteristics of evil. He argued that a diagnosis of evil should come from the standpoint of healing and safety for its victims, but also with the possibility even if remote, that the evil themselves may be cured.

Ultimately Peck says that evil arises out of free choice. He describes it thus: Every person stands at a crossroads, with one path leading to God, and the other path leading to the devil. The path of God is the right path, and accepting this path is akin to submission to a higher power. [editor note = opposite of insolent pride]  However, if a person wants to convince himself and others that he has free choice, he would rather take a path which cannot be attributed to its being the right path. Thus, he chooses the path of evil.

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Narcissists are evil in three ways.  First they want what they want, and are totally self-willed in seeking that – and in the process put their needs before everyone and everything else (= insolent pride).  They are exalting themselves in making what they want the prime objective.  Second, they are unwilling to acknowledge (to themselves and others) the evil in the first thing – so they cover it up through consistent deception, lying, and other forms of falsehood.  They are exalting themselves in a projecting a superior image as opposed to accepting the reality.  And third, they aggressively attack anyone who would challenge them on the first and second points.

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* Narcissist is the modern colloquial term for what the Bible calls “insolent pride”.  Please see here for an explanation.

Narcissism* = Insolent Pride – A Psychiatrist’s Perspective – Part 1

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“Narcissism, or self-absorption, takes many forms. Some are normal. Some are normal in childhood but not in adulthood. Some are more distinctly pathological than others.  The subject is as complex as it is important.  It is not the purpose of this book, however, to give a balanced view of the whole topic, so we will proceed immediately to that particular pathologic variant that Erich Fromm called ‘Malignant Narcissism’.

Malignant Narcissism is characterized by an un-submitted will.

All adults who are mentally healthy submit themselves one way or another to something higher than themselves, be it God or truth or love or some other ideal.  They do what God wants them to do rather than what they would desire.  “Thy will, not mine, be done” the God-submitted person says. They believe in what is true rather than what they would like to be true.

To a greater or lesser degree, all mentally healthy individuals submit themselves to the demands of their own conscience.  Not so the evil, however. In the conflict between their guilt and their will, it is the guilt that must go and the will that must win.  The reader will be struck by the extraordinary willfulness of evil people.

They are men and women of obviously strong will, determined to have their own way.  There is a remarkable power in the manner in which they attempt to control others.”

[Emphasis mine]

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M Scott Peck, The People of the Lie, Simon and Schuster, Inc., copyright © 1983, pg. 77-78

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“Unsubmitted will”, “attempt to control others”, are characteristics of insolent pride.  One with insolent pride will NOT submit to God or others, and will seek to have “their will be done”, instead of “Thy will be done”  M Scott Peck called it malignant narcissism.

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* Narcissist is the modern colloquial term for what the Bible calls “insolent pride”.  Please see here for an explanation.

The Divergence of Secular and Biblical Approaches To Narcissism*

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When we are discussing traits and tactics of narcissists*, there is not much difference between secular and biblical perspectives.  This is because narcissist traits and tactics are basically observational and/or descriptive – focused on “facts”.   The secular world “observes” the traits and tactics of narcissists* (those with insolent pride), while the Bible “describes” them.

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But it is as we dig deeper that the secular and biblical perspectives on narcissism will diverge.  This is because the biblical perspective brings God into the equation (of course), while the secular perspective does not.  Bringing God into the picture will affect our understanding of why narcissists do what they do, how they became narcissists, how we should relate to and deal with them, and how God deals with them.  Bringing God into the picture will also impact our understanding of whether things in our “relationships” with narcissists can ever change or improve.

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We will try to explain as we progress both how and why bringing God into the picture changes things.  And we will also occasionally highlight the differences between the secular and biblical approaches.

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I am mentioning this now, because while we will continue to discuss traits and tactics of narcissists, the emphasis is going to shift over time to a much deeper search into what is really going on with these “difficult people”.

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* Narcissist/narcissism is the modern colloquial term for what the Bible calls “insolent pride”.  Please see here for an explanation.

Reflecting On The Reflections

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I have been at this for a few months now, and have enjoyed and personally benefited from this path of learning on this particular subject.  I feel that we are 30-40% down this road of understanding of the Biblical perspective on narcissism and narcissists, described as “insolent pride” and “scoffers” in the Bible. The emphasis so far has been on identifying the traits and tactics of narcissists, or (scoffers/those with insolent pride).   In the future will be discussing much more about:

  • How to deal with narcissists / scoffers, from both a practical and “heavenly” perspective
  • How narcissists can be healed
  • How narcissists’ victims can be healed
  • God’s redemptive purposes in this subject
  • How some societies have narcissism deeply embedded in their culture and national character
  • How God “deals with” narcissists
  • and more

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Once we have gone through this first round of putting a lot of individual facts and perspectives from the Bible about narcissism on the table, we will go back and start to better organize and synthesize them into a more integrated understandable picture. As I have been working through this, I have noticed that while there are some similarities and overlaps between the secular approach to narcissism and the Biblical approach to narcissism, there are also some differences.   The secular approach to narcissism does a good job of discussing narcissistic traits, and the narcissist’s tactics.  And it provides a few practical means of dealing with narcissists, such as “low contact”, “no contact”, lowering expectations, setting boundaries, etc.  In some cases, these are very helpful and match up with the Biblical approach to the subject.  But the secular approach to the subject of narcissism does not dig very deeply into the “heart” side of narcissism, the causes of narcissism, or the distinctions in handling narcissism depending on the relationships.  The Bible talks much more about these and other similar subjects. We’re going to keep digging until we’ve reached as close to the bottom of this subject of narcissism and narcissists as possible.

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One final note.  I have tended to use the modern terms of narcissism, narcissist, narcissistic rather than the related Biblical terms.  This bothers me a little bit to do this, as I would generally prefer to use Biblical language to discuss Biblical topics.  However, to reach those who are looking for answers on narcissism, but would only search on that term rather than on the search term of “insolent pride” for example, I have tended to more heavily use those terms which people would more likely use for their Google search on the subject.

One final, final note.  I have two main purposes for doing this project.  One is that I am in a situation that is highly motivating to learn everything I can about the subject of narcissism, but from God’s perspective.  The other is to demonstrate that God has far superior wisdom than anyone else on every subject, including narcissism, and that this wisdom is “there for the taking”, right out of the Bible.  All we have to do is look.

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* Narcissist is the modern colloquial term for what the Bible calls “insolent pride”  please see here for an explanation

“Scoffer” – More Hebrew Words on Narcissists from Proverbs 21:24

The ultimate goal of this blog is to understand narcissism and how to deal with it from not just the secular literature, but more importantly from a biblical perspective.  There are many areas in common between the Bible and secular literature in defining narcissists and how to deal with them.  But there are also areas of difference which we will see later.

 

“Proud”, “Haughty”, “Scoffer” are his names, who acts with insolent pride.  Proverbs 21:24 (NASB)

 

 

To expand on Proverbs 21:24 in defining a narcissist (“Proud, Haughty, Scoffer are his names who acts with insolent pride”), we need to further expand the definition of the “names – Proud, Haughty, Scoffer”, just as we expanded “insolent pride” from http://insolentpride.blogspot.jp/2013/10/insolent-pride-hebrew-word.html .    Following is the breakdown of the word “scoffer” from http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/3887.htm.

luts: ambassador, have in derision, interpreter, make a mock, mocker

Original Word: לִיץ

Part of Speech: Verb

Transliteration: luts

Phonetic Spelling: (loots)

Short Definition: ambassador

Word Origin

the same as lits, q.v.

[לִיץverb scorn (Late Hebrew id.; verb not in cognates; compare Phoenician מלץ interpreter CIS22; CIS44; CIS88; Arabic  is turn aside (intransitive); hence perhaps properly speak indirectly or obliquely, FlDe Pr.1, 6); —Qal Perfect3masculine לַצְתָּ Proverbs 9:12Imperfect יָלִיץ Proverbs 3:34 2t.; Participle לֵץ Proverbs 9:711t.; plural לֵצִים Psalm 1:1 3t.; — scornוְלַצְתָּ לְבַדְּךָ תִשָּׂא Proverbs 9:12 if thou scornest thou alone shalt bear it (opposed to חָכַמְתָּ), with accusative Proverbs 14:9Proverbs 19:28; with לְלַלֵּצִים הוּאיָֿלִיץscorners he (Godscorneth Proverbs 3:34הַלֵּץ the scorner is proud and haughty Proverbs 21:24, delights in scorning Proverbs 1:22, is incapable of discipline Proverbs 9:7, reproof Proverbs 9:8; is Proverbs 15:12, or rebuke is Proverbs 13:1, cannot find wisdom Proverbs 14:6; is an abomination Proverbs 24:9, should be avoided Psalm 1:1; smitten and punished for the benefit of the simple Proverbs 19:25Proverbs 21:11 and banished for the removal of contention Proverbs 22:10; judgment is prepared for him Proverbs 19:29; “” עָרִיץIsaiah 29:20; wine is a scorner Proverbs 20:1. —

Hiph`il Perfect3masculine plural suffix הֱלִיצֻנִי Psalm 119:51Participle מֵלִיץ Genesis 42:23Job 33:23; plural construct מְלִיצֵי2Chronicles 32:31; suffix מְלִיצַי Job 16:20מְלִיצֶיךָ Isaiah 43:27; —

1 deride Job 16:20Psalm 119:51.

2 Participle interpreter Genesis 42:23 (E); figurative of intermediaries between God and man, Job 33:28;Isaiah 43:27ambassador2Chronicles 32:31.

Po`lel Participle plural לֹצֲצִים (מְ dropped Köii. 479scorners Hosea 7:5.

Hithpa`el Imperfect תִּתְלוֺצָ֑צוּ act as a scorner, shew oneself a mockerIsaiah 28:22.

ambassador, have in derision, interpreter, make a mock, mocker

A primitive root; properly, to make mouths at, i.e. To scoff; hence (from the effort to pronounce a foreign language) to interpret, or (generally) intercede — ambassador, have in derision, interpreter, make a mock, mocker, scorn(-er, -ful), teacher.

בִּמְלִיצֵ֣י ׀ במליצי הֱלִיצֻ֣נִי הַמֵּלִ֖יץ הליצני המליץ וְ֝לֵ֗ץ וְ֝לַ֗צְתָּ וְלֵצִ֗ים וּמְלִיצֶ֖יךָ ולץ ולצים ולצת ומליציך יָלִ֑יץ יָלִ֣יץ יליץ לֵ֑ץ לֵ֗ץ לֵ֝צִ֗ים לֵ֣ץ לֵ֭ץ לֵֽץ׃ לַלֵּצִ֣ים לַלֵּצִ֥ים ללצים לץ לץ׃ לצים מְלִיצַ֥י מֵלִ֗יץ מליץ מליצי תִּתְלוֹצָ֔צוּ תתלוצצו bim·lî·ṣê bimlîṣê bimliTzei ham·mê·lîṣ hammêlîṣ hammeLitz hĕ·lî·ṣu·nî hĕlîṣunî heliTzuni lal·lê·ṣîm lallêṣîm lalleTzim lê·ṣîm lêṣ lêṣîm Letz leTzim mə·lî·ṣay mê·lîṣ mêlîṣ məlîṣay meLitz meliTzai tiṯ·lō·w·ṣā·ṣū titloTzatzu tiṯlōwṣāṣū ū·mə·lî·ṣe·ḵā ūməlîṣeḵā umeliTzeicha veLatzta veLetz veleTzim wə·laṣ·tā wə·lê·ṣîm wə·lêṣ wəlaṣtā wəlêṣ wəlêṣîm yā·lîṣ yālîṣ, ya litz

Strong’s Hebrew 3887
27 Occurrences
bim·lî·ṣê — 1 Occ.

ham·mê·lîṣ — 1 Occ.

hĕ·lî·ṣu·nî — 1 Occ.

lal·lê·ṣîm — 2 Occ.

lêṣ — 11 Occ.

lê·ṣîm — 1 Occ.

mê·lîṣ — 1 Occ.

mə·lî·ṣay — 1 Occ.

tiṯ·lō·w·ṣā·ṣū — 1 Occ.

ū·mə·lî·ṣe·ḵā — 1 Occ.

wə·laṣ·tā — 1 Occ.

wə·lêṣ — 1 Occ.

wə·lê·ṣîm — 1 Occ.

yā·lîṣ — 3 Occ.

Genesis 42:23 

BIB: יוֹסֵ֑ף כִּ֥י הַמֵּלִ֖יץ בֵּינֹתָֽם׃ 

KJV: understood [them]; for he spake unto them by an interpreter.

INT: Joseph by an interpreterbetween2 Chronicles 32:31 

BIB: וְכֵ֞ן בִּמְלִיצֵ֣י ׀ שָׂרֵ֣י בָּבֶ֗ל

KJV: Howbeit in [the business of] the ambassadors of the princes

INT: Even the ambassadors of the rulers of Babylon

Job 16:20 

BIB: מְלִיצַ֥י רֵעָ֑י אֶל־

KJV: My friends scorn me: [but] mine eye

INT: scorn my friends to

Job 33:23 

BIB: עָלָ֨יו ׀ מַלְאָ֗ךְ מֵלִ֗יץ אֶחָ֥ד מִנִּי־

KJV: be a messenger with him, an interpreter, one

INT: and is an angel an interpreter One out

Psalm 1:1 

BIB: עָמָ֑ד וּבְמוֹשַׁ֥ב לֵ֝צִ֗ים לֹ֣א יָשָֽׁב׃

KJV: in the seat of the scornful.

INT: stand the seat of the scornful Nor sit

Psalm 119:51 

BIB: זֵ֭דִים הֱלִיצֻ֣נִי עַד־ מְאֹ֑ד

KJV: have had me greatly in derision: [yet] have I not declined

INT: the arrogant derisionagainst greatly

Proverbs 1:22 

BIB: תְּֽאֵהֲב֫וּ פֶ֥תִי וְלֵצִ֗ים לָ֭צוֹן חָמְד֣וּ

KJV: simplicity? and the scorners delight

INT: love ones ambassadorscoffing delight

Proverbs 3:34 

BIB: אִם־ לַלֵּצִ֥ים הֽוּא־ יָלִ֑יץ

KJV: Surely he scorneth the scorners:

INT: Though scorneth he the scorners

Proverbs 3:34 

BIB: לַלֵּצִ֥ים הֽוּא־ יָלִ֑יץ [וְלַעֲנִיִּים כ]

KJV: Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth

INT: scorneth he the scornersafflicted gives

Proverbs 9:7 

BIB: יֹ֤סֵ֨ר ׀ לֵ֗ץ לֹקֵ֣חַֽ ל֣וֹ

KJV: He that reproveth a scorner getteth

INT: corrects A scorner gets dishonor

Proverbs 9:8 

BIB: אַל־ תּ֣וֹכַח לֵ֭ץ פֶּן־ יִשְׂנָאֶ֑ךָּ

KJV: Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate

INT: not reprove A scorner or will hate

Proverbs 9:12 

BIB: חָכַ֣מְתָּ לָּ֑ךְ וְ֝לַ֗צְתָּ לְֽבַדְּךָ֥ תִשָּֽׂא׃

KJV: thou shalt be wise for thyself: but [if] thou scornest,thou alone shalt bear

INT: are wise are wise scornestalone will bear

Proverbs 13:1 

BIB: מ֣וּסַר אָ֑ב וְ֝לֵ֗ץ לֹא־ שָׁמַ֥ע

KJV: instruction: but a scornerheareth

INT: discipline father’s A scornerdoes not listen

Proverbs 14:6 

BIB: בִּקֶּשׁ־ לֵ֣ץ חָכְמָ֣ה וָאָ֑יִן

KJV: A scorner seeketh wisdom,

INT: seeks A scorner wisdom and none

Proverbs 14:9 

BIB: אֱ֭וִלִים יָלִ֣יץ אָשָׁ֑ם וּבֵ֖ין

KJV: Fools make a mock at sin:

INT: Fools A mock sin among

Proverbs 15:12 

BIB: לֹ֣א יֶאֱהַב־ לֵ֭ץ הוֹכֵ֣חַֽ ל֑וֹ

KJV: A scorner loveth

INT: does not love A scornerreproves to

Proverbs 19:25 

BIB: לֵ֣ץ תַּ֭כֶּה וּפֶ֣תִי

KJV: Smite a scorner, and the simple

INT: A scorner Strike and the naive

Proverbs 19:28 

BIB: עֵ֣ד בְּ֭לִיַּעַל יָלִ֣יץ מִשְׁפָּ֑ט וּפִ֥י

KJV: witness scornethjudgment:

INT: witness A rascally scornethof justice and the mouth

Proverbs 19:29 

BIB: נָכ֣וֹנוּ לַלֵּצִ֣ים שְׁפָטִ֑ים וּ֝מַהֲלֻמ֗וֹת

KJV: are prepared for scorners,and stripes

INT: are prepared scornersJudgments and blows

Proverbs 20:1 

BIB: לֵ֣ץ הַ֭יַּין הֹמֶ֣ה

KJV: Wine [is] a mocker, strong drink

INT: a mocker Wine A brawler

Proverbs 21:11 

BIB: בַּעְנָשׁ־ לֵ֭ץ יֶחְכַּם־ פֶּ֑תִי

KJV: When the scorner is punished,

INT: is punished the scornerbecomes the naive

Proverbs 21:24 

BIB: זֵ֣ד יָ֭הִיר לֵ֣ץ שְׁמ֑וֹ ע֝וֹשֶׂ֗ה

KJV: [and] haughty scorner [is] his name,

INT: Proud Haughty scorner are his names acts

Proverbs 22:10 

BIB: גָּ֣רֵֽשׁ לֵ֭ץ וְיֵצֵ֣א מָד֑וֹן

KJV: Cast out the scorner, and contention

INT: Drive the scorner will go and contention

Proverbs 24:9 

BIB: וְתוֹעֲבַ֖ת לְאָדָ֣ם לֵֽץ׃ 

KJV: [is] sin: and the scorner [is] an abomination

INT: is an abomination to menand the scorner

Isaiah 28:22 

BIB: וְעַתָּה֙ אַל־ תִּתְלוֹצָ֔צוּ פֶּֽן־ יֶחְזְק֖וּ

KJV: Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands

INT: and now nay mockers Or will be made

27 Occurrences

“Haughty” – More Hebrew Words on Narcissists from Proverbs 21:24

The ultimate goal of this blog is to understand narcissism and how to deal with it from not just the secular literature, but more importantly from a biblical perspective.  There are many areas in common between the Bible and secular literature in defining narcissists and how to deal with them.  But there are also areas of difference which we will see later.

 

“Proud”, “Haughty”, “Scoffer” are his names, who acts with insolent pride.  Proverbs 21:24 (NASB)

 

 

To expand on Proverbs 21:24 in defining a narcissist (“Proud, Haughty, Scoffer are his names who acts with insolent pride”), we need to further expand the definition of the “names – Proud, Haughty, Scoffer”, just as we expanded “insolent pride” from http://insolentpride.blogspot.jp/2013/10/insolent-pride-hebrew-word.html .    Following is the breakdown of the word “proud” from http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/3093.htm.

yahir: proud, haughty

Original Word: יָהִיר

Part of Speech: Adjective

Transliteration: yahir

Phonetic Spelling: (yaw-here’)

Short Definition: haughty

Word Origin

from an unused word

Definition

proud, haughty

NASB Translation

haughty (2).

Strong’s Hebrew 3093
2 Occurrences
yā·hîr — 2 Occ.Proverbs 21:24 BIB: זֵ֣ד יָ֭הִיר לֵ֣ץ שְׁמ֑וֹ

NAS: Proud, Haughty, Scoffer,

KJV: Proud [and] haughtyscorner

INT: Proud Haughty scorner are his names

Habakkuk 2:5 

BIB: בּוֹגֵ֔ד גֶּ֥בֶר יָהִ֖יר וְלֹ֣א יִנְוֶ֑ה

NAS: betrays the haughty man,

KJV: by wine, [he is] a proudman,

INT: betrays man the haughtynever stay

2 Occurrences

“Proud” – More Hebrew Words on Narcissists from Proverbs 21:24

The ultimate goal of this blog is to understand narcissism and how to deal with it from not just the secular literature, but more importantly from a biblical perspective.  There are many areas in common between the Bible and secular literature in defining narcissists and how to deal with them.  But there are also areas of difference which we will see later.

 

“Proud”, “Haughty”, “Scoffer” are his names, who acts with insolent pride.  Proverbs 21:24 (NASB)

 

 

To expand on Proverbs 21:24 in defining a narcissist (“Proud, Haughty, Scoffer are his names who acts with insolent pride”), we need to further expand the definition of the “names – Proud, Haughty, Scoffer”, just as we expanded “insolent pride” from http://insolentpride.blogspot.jp/2013/10/insolent-pride-hebrew-word.html .    Following is the breakdown of the word “proud” from http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/2086.htm.

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Proud

 

zed: insolent, presumptuous

Original Word: זֵד

Part of Speech: Noun Masculine

Transliteration: zed

Phonetic Spelling: (zade’)

Short Definition: arrogant

Word Origin

from zud

Definition

insolent, presumptuous

NASB Translation

arrogant (9), arrogant men (1), presumptuous (1), proud (2).

זֵד adjective insolent, presumptuous: — ׳ז Proverbs 21:24; plural זֵדִים Jeremiah 43:2 11t.; — always masculine, and always of opposition to ׳י, wickedness; with qualified noun expressed, only הָאֲנָשִׁים הַזֵּדִים Jeremiah 43:2, of opponents of Jeremiah; elsewhere used substantively, as technical term for godless, rebellious men; once singular זֵד יָהִיר לֵץ שְׁמוֺ Proverbs 21:24 a haughty insolent one, scorner is his name(“” עוֺשֶׂה בְּעֶבְרַת זָדוֺן); usually plural Isaiah 13:11(׳גְּאוֺן ז; “” גַּאֲוַת עָרִיצִים); Malachi 3:13 (“” עשֵֹׁי רִשְׁעָה), Malachi 4:19 (“” רִשְׁעָה עשֵֹׁה); and in Psalm 86:14 (“” עָרִיצִים), Psalm 119:21(“” מִמִּצְוֺתֶיךָ הַשֹּׁגִים), Psalm 119:51Psalm 119:69Psalm 119:78Psalm 119:85Psalm 119:122; so probably also Psalm 19:14 גַּם מִזֵּדִים חֲשׂךְ עַבְדֶּ֑ךָ also from presumptuous men hold back thy servant (Ew Ol Hup Che RVm); > presumptuous sins Deal. (AV RV).

presumptuous, proud

From zuwd; arrogant — presumptuous, proud.

see HEBREW zuwd

הַזֵּדִ֑ים הזדים זֵ֘דִ֤ים זֵ֣ד זֵ֭דִים זֵדִ֑ים זֵדִ֔ים זֵדִ֜ים זֵדִ֣ים זֵדִֽים׃ זד זדים זדים׃ מִזֵּדִ֨ים ׀ מזדים haz·zê·ḏîm hazzeDim hazzêḏîm miz·zê·ḏîm mizzeDim mizzêḏîm zê·ḏîm zed zêḏ zeDim zêḏîm

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Strong’s Hebrew 2086
13 Occurrences

haz·zê·ḏîm — 1 Occ.

miz·zê·ḏîm — 1 Occ.

zêḏ — 1 Occ.

zê·ḏîm — 10 Occ.

Psalm 19:13 

BIB: גַּ֤ם מִזֵּדִ֨ים ׀ חֲשֹׂ֬ךְ עַבְדֶּ֗ךָ

NAS: Your servant from presumptuous [sins]; Let them not rule

KJV: thy servant also from presumptuous [sins]; let them not have dominion

INT: Also presumptuous keep your servant

Psalm 86:14 

BIB: אֱלֹהִ֤ים ׀ זֵ֘דִ֤ים קָֽמוּ־ עָלַ֗י

NAS: O God, arrogant menhave risen

KJV: O God, the proud are risen

INT: God arrogant have risen against

Psalm 119:21 

BIB: גָּ֭עַרְתָּ זֵדִ֣ים אֲרוּרִ֑ים הַ֝שֹּׁגִים

NAS: You rebuke the arrogant,the cursed,

KJV: Thou hast rebuked the proud [that are] cursed,

INT: rebuke the arrogant the cursed wander

Psalm 119:51 

BIB: זֵ֭דִים הֱלִיצֻ֣נִי עַד־

NAS: The arrogant utterly deride

KJV: The proud have had me greatly

INT: the arrogant derision against

Psalm 119:69 

BIB: עָלַ֣י שֶׁ֣קֶר זֵדִ֑ים אֲ֝נִ֗י בְּכָל־

NAS: The arrogant have forged a lie

KJV: The proud have forged a lie

INT: against A lie the arrogant I all

Psalm 119:78 

BIB: יֵבֹ֣שׁוּ זֵ֭דִים כִּי־ שֶׁ֣קֶר

NAS: May the arrogant be ashamed,

KJV: Let the proud be ashamed;

INT: be ashamed may the arrogant with A lie

Psalm 119:85 

BIB: כָּֽרוּ־ לִ֣י זֵדִ֣ים שִׁיח֑וֹת אֲ֝שֶׁ֗ר

NAS: The arrogant have dug pits

KJV: The proud have digged pits

INT: have dug the arrogant pits me who

Psalm 119:122 

BIB: אַֽל־ יַעַשְׁקֻ֥נִי זֵדִֽים׃ 

NAS: for good; Do not let the arrogant oppress

KJV: for good: let not the proudoppress

INT: nay oppress the arrogant

Proverbs 21:24 

BIB: זֵ֣ד יָ֭הִיר לֵ֣ץ

NAS: Proud, Haughty, Scoffer,

KJV: Proud [and] haughty scorner

INT: Proud Haughty scorner

Isaiah 13:11 

BIB: וְהִשְׁבַּתִּי֙ גְּא֣וֹן זֵדִ֔ים וְגַאֲוַ֥ת עָרִיצִ֖ים

NAS: to the arrogance of the proud And abase

KJV: and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease,

INT: put to the arrogance of the proud the haughtiness of the ruthless

Jeremiah 43:2 

BIB: וְכָל־ הָאֲנָשִׁ֖ים הַזֵּדִ֑יםאֹמְרִ֣ים אֶֽל־

NAS: and all the arrogant men

KJV: of Kareah, and all the proud men,

INT: and all men the arrogant to say to

Malachi 3:15 

BIB: אֲנַ֖חְנוּ מְאַשְּׁרִ֣ים זֵדִ֑ים גַּם־ נִבְנוּ֙

NAS: we call the arrogantblessed;

KJV: And now we call the proudhappy;

INT: we call the arrogant only built

Malachi 4:1 

BIB: וְהָי֨וּ כָל־ זֵדִ֜ים וְכָל־ עֹשֵׂ֤ה

NAS: and all the arrogant and every

KJV: as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do

INT: become and all the arrogant and every do

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